diff --git a/WiFiManager.cpp b/WiFiManager.cpp
index a942019..6f75c26 100644
--- a/WiFiManager.cpp
+++ b/WiFiManager.cpp
@@ -1452,11 +1452,20 @@ bool WiFiManager::WiFi_scanNetworks(bool force,bool async){
     // DEBUG_WM(DEBUG_DEV,_numNetworks,(millis()-_lastscan ));
     // DEBUG_WM(DEBUG_DEV,"scanNetworks force:",force == true);
     #endif
-    if(_numNetworks == 0){
+
+    // if 0 networks, rescan @note this was a kludge, now disabling to test real cause ( maybe wifi not init etc)
+    // enable only if preload failed? 
+    if(_numNetworks == 0 && _autoforcerescan){
       DEBUG_WM(DEBUG_DEV,"NO APs found forcing new scan");
       force = true;
     }
-    if(force || (_lastscan>0 && (millis()-_lastscan > 60000))){
+
+    // if scan is empty or stale (last scantime > _scancachetime), this avoids fast reloading wifi page and constant scan delayed page loads appearing to freeze.
+    if(!_lastscan || (_lastscan>0 && (millis()-_lastscan > _scancachetime))){
+      force = true;
+    }
+
+    if(force){
       int8_t res;
       _startscan = millis();
       if(async && _asyncScan){
@@ -3731,7 +3740,7 @@ String WiFiManager::WiFi_psk(bool persistent) const {
         WiFi.reconnect();
       #endif
   }
-  else if(event == ARDUINO_EVENT_WIFI_SCAN_DONE){
+  else if(event == ARDUINO_EVENT_WIFI_SCAN_DONE && _asyncScan){
     uint16_t scans = WiFi.scanComplete();
     WiFi_scanComplete(scans);
   }
diff --git a/WiFiManager.h b/WiFiManager.h
index 4c057ee..cedffab 100644
--- a/WiFiManager.h
+++ b/WiFiManager.h
@@ -544,10 +544,17 @@ class WiFiManager
     // async enables asyncronous scans, so they do not block anything
     // the refresh button bypasses cache
     // no aps found is problematic as scans are always going to want to run, leading to page load delays
-    boolean       _preloadwifiscan        = false;  // preload wifiscan if true
-    boolean       _asyncScan              = false; // perform wifi network scan async
-    unsigned int  _scancachetime          = 30000; // ms cache time for background scans
+    // 
+    // These settings really only make sense with _preloadwifiscan true
+    // but not limited to, we could run continuous background scans on various page hits, or xhr hits
+    // which would be better coupled with asyncscan
+    // atm preload is only done on root hit and startcp
+    boolean       _preloadwifiscan        = true; // preload wifiscan if true
+    unsigned int  _scancachetime          = 30000; // ms cache time for preload scans
+    boolean       _asyncScan              = true; // perform wifi network scan async
 
+    boolean       _autoforcerescan        = false;  // automatically force rescan if scan networks is 0, ignoring cache
+    
     boolean       _disableIpFields        = false; // modify function of setShow_X_Fields(false), forces ip fields off instead of default show if set, eg. _staShowStaticFields=-1
 
     String        _wificountry            = "";  // country code, @todo define in strings lang